Comments on: Schools want to stop ‘cheating’ http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/ Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:57:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: ziadoz http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15999 Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:33:37 +0000 http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15999 Coursework is just as valuable as exam work. Suggesting that many people cheat, and that there are no valuable skills from coursework is typical of people who haven't done any. Having done plenty of coursework myself, especially at university, I can honestly say without the coursework I wouldn't have had the skills to pass the exams. The coursework often requires practical work to be undertaken, proven and analyzed. The only thing that needs to be changed is the weighting of both towards the overall grade. Coursework is just as valuable as exam work. Suggesting that many people cheat, and that there are no valuable skills from coursework is typical of people who haven’t done any.

Having done plenty of coursework myself, especially at university, I can honestly say without the coursework I wouldn’t have had the skills to pass the exams. The coursework often requires practical work to be undertaken, proven and analyzed. The only thing that needs to be changed is the weighting of both towards the overall grade.

]]> by: Stoom http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15941 Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:48:03 +0000 http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15941 Its all the same everywere it seems. Greetings from Holland. Its all the same everywere it seems.
Greetings from Holland.

]]> by: lascivious http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15793 Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:09:23 +0000 http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15793 Physics degrees used to be much harder than they are now. Not only was the content considerably more advanced, but the assessment was much harder. There used to be a single exam that covered the whole three years of study. There was no other form of assessment. Now, we have modular degrees that allow students to fail a certain percentage of modules (so long as their average grade is sufficient) and if they don't make it, they are allowed to resit modules or repeat years. We have "transferable skills" which allow the students to get "free" marks. We have coursework with little or no controls on plagarism. All in the name of political correctness. We can't, after all, have people being turfed out on their ears for not acheiving. We are judged by the government on added value and the number of students we get through the door, rather than the over-all suitability and ability a student has in their chosen subject. If we chuck someone out for being not good enough, we get financial (and political) penalties. The rott this government (and previous ones, to be fair) has woven through our education establishments exists at all levels. I just wonder what other public services and institutions have been infected. Physics degrees used to be much harder than they are now. Not only was the content considerably more advanced, but the assessment was much harder. There used to be a single exam that covered the whole three years of study. There was no other form of assessment.

Now, we have modular degrees that allow students to fail a certain percentage of modules (so long as their average grade is sufficient) and if they don’t make it, they are allowed to resit modules or repeat years. We have “transferable skills” which allow the students to get “free” marks. We have coursework with little or no controls on plagarism.

All in the name of political correctness. We can’t, after all, have people being turfed out on their ears for not acheiving. We are judged by the government on added value and the number of students we get through the door, rather than the over-all suitability and ability a student has in their chosen subject. If we chuck someone out for being not good enough, we get financial (and political) penalties.

The rott this government (and previous ones, to be fair) has woven through our education establishments exists at all levels. I just wonder what other public services and institutions have been infected.

]]> by: Thersites http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15792 Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:54:04 +0000 http://garymonro.blogsome.com/2005/11/22/schools-want-to-stop-cheating/#comment-15792 Gary: I have a radical idea -- why not start assessing pupils knowledge in a situation where they have no access to the Internet, parents or reference books. It could be done on a yearly basis, over a set period of time and be supervised to deter cheating. We could call it, err, an exam! What a novel idea. Gary:
I have a radical idea — why not start assessing pupils knowledge in a situation where they have no access to the Internet, parents or reference books. It could be done on a yearly basis, over a set period of time and be supervised to deter cheating. We could call it, err, an exam!

What a novel idea.

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