Hot on the heels of Mrs Blair’s insistence that the British, in dealing with a murderous, home-grown terrorism threat should following the foreign laws of the unelected and totalitarian European Union and the equally inappropriate UN Human Rights legislation we now have the Home Office Minister telling police how to carry out their stop and search operations.
Police should not use racial profiling in their efforts to prevent further terror attacks on London, Home Office Minister Hazel Blears has said.
People should not be stopped and searched just because they are Muslim she said, before the first of a series of meetings with community leaders.
Words fail me.
If British Muslims are serious about combating this poison in our midst then they are going to have to put up with the discomfort of being the primary target of police stop and search activities. How much time are we prepared to waste frisking little old white ladies in our search for jihadists with semtex in order to placate the sensitivities of British Muslims?
If police were looking for violent football thugs I would expect them to profile the typical football thug and expend a larger proportion of their time and energy on people matching that profile. So I would expect Muslims, for example, to form a very small fraction of their attentions whilst white males between the ages of 20 and 40 - like me - to face the occasional police stop and search.
Nevertheless, Ms Blears regales us with further wisdom in the pursuit of effective policing:
“Just picking people up just on the basis that they’re Muslim is never going to get the result you want,” she said.
Of course. When looking for Muslim terrorists it’s always best to shake down a few Jews, worry the occasional Hindu and, of course, harass those godless atheists. That’s where you are most likely to find Muslim terrorists.
At least the National Black Police Association’s Ch Supt Ali Dizaei has a few more functioning brain cells:
“People do not mind being stopped and searched, provided that it is explained to them, provided they’re dealt with respect, and provided they’re dealt with courtesy, and I think that is the key, and there’s every indication so far since the seventh of July that that understanding has been taking place across London.
“These are extraordinary times and people are committed from all communities to work together with the police in order to sort this problem out.”
Now that’ s much better news. I hope it’s true that people do understand the predicament we’re in and are co-operating with the police because it’s one thing to condemn the atrocities but unless the words are followed by the necessary actions - uncomfortable as they may be - then it’s all to no avail. I personally believe that most British people are fine with polite, professional policing.
A British Transport Police (BTP) spokesman insisted the force did not intend to ’single out’ any particular community.
“Clearly if we are looking for people and being operationally efficient, we have got to target the people who we think are maybe involved,” he said.
“It is going to be disproportionate. It is going to be young men, not exclusively, but it may be disproportionate when it comes to ethnic groups.”
Good. I don’t want to be blown up and nor does any Muslim reading this. So we need to allow the police to do what’s necessary to minimise the possibility, don’t we?
Seems not:
But Muslim Council of Britain spokesman Inayat Bunglawala warned the strategy could be “counter-productive”.
“While it is understandable that the police need to undertake every step to thwart would-be bombers it is crucial that they do not unnecessarily alienate and stigmatise an entire segment of society,” he said.
Ihtisham Hibatullah, of the Muslim Association of Britain, said such a policy would worsen the situation.
“It won’t help in terms of building a relationship or trust between the communities,” he said.
“It will alienate the youth and create unnecessary fear about the authorities, especially in the wake of the death of the young Brazilian man.”
What Mr Bunglawala needs to understand is that feeling alienated is partly a matter of choice. If people being stopped choose to see this as being an inconvenient but necessary means of defending ourselves against indiscriminate murderers then these feelings will not arise. However, if a person wants to regard it as an intrusion and an affront then feelings of alienation will surely follow.
Instead of pandering to these feelings these leaders ought instead to be asking their constituencies to stiffen the upper lip and accept some inconvenience for a while. Part of being British is co-operating with the authorities when the chips are down, not covering oneself in victim status and crying to the politicians.

There are a few flies in the ointment with going back to the old ’sus’ law.
First of all, the reality is some of the bombers were not Asian. So if we base the profile on the last people we know of, its Asians (not Chinese) and blacks. Of course, anyone could be Muslim.
We also know that “people of Mediteranean appearance” like Palestinians may very well be suicide bombers. Better put them on the list.
A copper from outside London, not so familiar with the various races, may well (for safety) just stop anyone who looks a bit foreign. Who would blame him?
If it works, thats fine for a while - but the trick is not to justify bad practice unless we are absolutely desperate. And this is bad practice.
I still remember operation “Own goal” where initially the police failed to find known football hooligans on Chelsea away matches. Why? The police were on the right trains, but the thugs all travelled first class. Assumptions only go so far.
Comment by DE — August 2, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
…. well, we must never forget that the safety of the country will come second to buying Labour votes in Muslim communities.
Comment by Paul — August 2, 2005 @ 4:15 pm
Actually, there are sound security reasons to believe that profiling randomly is optimal (i.e. the risk is that terrorists will simply adapt to go through the easy route. This has also happened before).
See http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue7_10/chakrabarti/
also
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/07/profiling.html
Of course there’s also a lot of reason to suppose that security checkpoints are not a good idea even if random, since if they bunch a lot of people together in queues waiting to go through, they are as much of a target as anything else where crowds are gathered. Nothing stops the terrorist from simply setting off their bomb in the queue itself.
Comment by Frank O\'Dwyer — August 2, 2005 @ 10:09 pm
Brazilian husband gets stopped and searched at Kings Cross ce soir. Is he traumatised? Er, no. Just had another quick look at the pics of the suspected bombers and yep..they’re still Asian/Jamaican. I hope the police chose to ignore Ms Nutcase. What will she and her government do next - introduce legislation that forbids commuters from getting off tube carriages when they racially profile someone extra hard knowing that the police arent now effectively doing their jobs and mostly wasting their time. Quick survey of my mixed politik bunch of co workers - yep they will continue their own racial profiling and likely as not more vigorously now. So the asian community will now have to contend with yet more stares.
Comment by Alison Figueiredo — August 2, 2005 @ 11:09 pm
Think you should buy The Sun(!) today and join the action!
Comment by Alison Figueiredo — August 3, 2005 @ 9:59 am
Alison,
One of my colleagues (Indian) sat opposite a woman at the first station on the Central Line. She looked a little nervous for a few seconds then rushed off before the train had travelled one stop. My colleague was in stitches telling us about this.
‘Victimhood’ is a state of mind. Provided a person isn’t subjected to consistent and rude interrogation by the authorities it’s simply a sign of maturity to realise that they have only the most superficial attributes of the would-be bombers to go on - and when one’s own superficial attributes fit the bill one has to accept that one will be the subject of closer scrutiny.
My (Indian) wife got searched twice last time we flew. We both think it’s funny.
Personally, I think they should arrest her for having a dangerous laugh.
I did tell them that but they just smiled.
GM
Comment by Administrator — August 3, 2005 @ 12:21 pm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,542-1718592,00.html
Comment by Alison Figueiredo — August 3, 2005 @ 5:24 pm
From the times article posted by Alison:
“It would be ludicrous if the British Transport Police or the Metropolitan Police were obliged to work on the assumption that anyone was as likely to be a suicide bomber as the next person.”
Actually, if you’re talking about ’stop and search’, no it wouldn’t. Counter-intuitive as it might seem, random profiling is better than racial profiling. See the links I posted in an earlier comment for evidence of this.
And “as likely” = “very unlikely”.
The obvious move for the terrorist is to trick or coerce people who do not fit the profile into carrying the bombs. In which case, racial profiling is actually counterproductive.
To say nothing of the real costs of this extremely ineffective countermeasure:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4740015.stm
For the terrorists, racial profiling is mission accomplished.
From the links I posted before:
“Despite what many people think, terrorism is not confined to young Arab males. Shoe-bomber Richard Reid was British. Germaine Lindsay, one of the 7/7 London bombers, was Afro-Caribbean. Here are some more examples:
In 1986, a 32-year-old Irish woman, pregnant at the time, was about to board an El Al flight from London to Tel Aviv when El Al security agents discovered an explosive device hidden in the false bottom of her bag. The woman’s boyfriend–the father of her unborn child–had hidden the bomb.
In 1987, a 70-year-old man and a 25-year-old woman–neither of whom were Middle Eastern–posed as father and daughter and brought a bomb aboard a Korean Air flight from Baghdad to Thailand. En route to Bangkok, the bomb exploded, killing all on board.
In 1999, men dressed as businessmen (and one dressed as a Catholic priest) turned out to be terrorist hijackers, who forced an Avianca flight to divert to an airstrip in Colombia, where some passengers were held as hostages for more than a year-and-half.
The 2002 Bali terrorists were Indonesian. The Chechnyan terrorists who downed the Russian planes were women. Timothy McVeigh and the Unibomber were Americans. The Basque terrorists are Basque, and Irish terrorists are Irish. Tha Tamil Tigers are Sri Lankan.
And many Muslims are not Arabs. Even worse, almost everyone who is Arab is not a terrorist — many people who look Arab are not even Muslims. So not only are there an large number of false negatives — terrorists who don’t meet the profile — but there an enormous number of false positives: innocents that do meet the profile.”
Comment by Frank O'Dwyer — August 3, 2005 @ 10:30 pm
Stop and search is a useful tool for police in helping to protect the public, rail staff and the rail system from terrorist attack. Stop Searches are designed to deter and disrupt terrorism and planning for terrorism, as well as to reassure the public.
We believe that in the current circumstances and with the real threat of more terrorist attacks, the public from all communities understand the need for this sort of activity.
BTP has not changed its policy on stop and search under terrorism legislation. This has always been predominantly intelligence led, which means that it will target particular profiles of people, in particular places, depending on the information available at the time. This is a sensible use of resources.
There is also a random element to stop and search – this is to make the environment unpredictable and therefore more risky for a potential terrorist.
In intelligence led stops, the information that police have can cover known terrorists and suspects, knowledge of previous activity and methods, as well as future plans and threats. Although recent media reports concentrate on ethnicity, it is just one element in building a profile; others can include, age, sex, behaviour, clothing, bags, particular areas/stations, times etc…
I think the BTP themselves speak clearly enough on this. Of course it isnt fail safe at all - or limited to certain types. I think they may recall the events you post aswell since from what ive seen and posted this isnt limited to muslims. Please send your suggestion to MI5 and the BTP since you are convinced your methods work so well and have evidence to prove this, whilst there is no immediate solution to terrorism,im sure they would welcome your advice.
Comment by Alison Figueiredo — August 4, 2005 @ 1:21 pm
Alison,
I would encourage you to read all of the evidence rather than uncritically accept statements from the BTP. (Particularly Schneier, who is not just some dude with a blog, but one of the foremost security researchers in the world, and an advisor on the working group for airport security in the US.)
Of course we all profile, to some extent, especially in these jumpy times in London. I do. It is intuitive. As nuts as it seems to do otherwise, it is not rational, because it does not work. One pretty good indicator that it doesn’t is that when we profile on our daily commute the people who seem most like “muslim terrorists” continue not to explode.
The problem is that any system with a fixed profile can be probed and gamed by terrorists. That is what the carnival booth paper is about. It doesn’t matter what the profile is. The BTP system is exactly of the type that is weak: “Although recent media reports concentrate on ethnicity, it is just one element in building a profile; others can include, age, sex, behaviour, clothing, bags, particular areas/stations, times etc…” Include as many attributes as you like, it doesn’t matter (did they pay cash for their ticket? was it a one way ticket? etc).
Terrorists don’t even need to know how your profiling system works, nor what intelligence it is based on. All they need to do is recruit and send several operatives on dry runs without any weapons and see who is selected for search. The ones who do not get selected then get sent on the real mission. (The 9/11 attackers, specifically Atta, are thought to have performed dry runs in just this manner.)
The notion that stop and search is to “deter and disrupt terrorism” is also pretty hard to swallow when you consider these guys are suicide bombers: “Gee, I was going to blow myself up, you know, incinerate myself…but I can’t take the risk that my bag might be searched! I draw the line at that!”. Stop a suicide bomber and they will just blow themselves up. There won’t be any search, except for forensic evidence afterwards.
It is all for show. The truest part of the BTP statement is that it is to “reassure”. I don’t feel reassured though. I went through Liverpool street station recently, and it was full of policemen, some of them apparently armed with submachine guns, standing round having a chat, and the rest stopping foreign looking people and filling out forms. What possible terrorist scenario would warrant actual use of a submachine gun in one of the most crowded stations in London? And what is the point of detaining suspects if they are already in the station. Absolutely none, except to be visible to the sheeple.
Comment by Frank O'Dwyer — August 4, 2005 @ 8:49 pm
The sub machine gun thing actually seems like a very effective to deterrent. Outside of the hardcore nutcases in the trenches, most would-be urban trouble makers would obviously think twice about using their flour bombs etc. Its a bit expensive, but “Looking menacing” is probably better than gambling with stop and search.
Comment by DE — August 4, 2005 @ 10:00 pm
You might also like to see:
http://mcbwatch.blogspot.com/
Comment by Geoff — August 10, 2005 @ 9:48 am